somebody on another thread suggested that those still in could express their opinions on steven lett's performance.
i am still in and i was shocked, dismayed and saddened by it.
i became a witness over 30 yrs ago and the issue of donations was a non-issue for so many years.. now, it is a huge one for the org.
Maybe we are missing something here. Lett's abysmal performance may have been deliberate for one of the following two reasons:
1. Because he is an undercover apostate and just wants to help people get out
or
2. Because the GB really do want the hangers-on and those with doubts to leave, this will allow them to better assess how many KH they can sell-off to move the money into other projects
i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.
i really cared about the people in the field.
i thought their lives were in danger.
JA
We never went to such an extreme, it was just the stock in the KH we had to destroy.
the message has changed dramatically from the good news of the kingdom and imitation of jesus to the following:.
1. keep your eye simple and try to find a low paying part time job so you can pioneer.
such jobs might be janitorial or house cleaning, yard care, etc.
being a jw you're able to ignore bad things to some level.
it's the lazy way of saying, "jehovah will deal with it soon".
but when i loss my faith, the biggest gut wrench was the idea that true justice was just an illusion.
Since I stopped taking the JW religion seriously I have started observing the people around me when I am out. The world is full of wonderful people, there are of course some not so wonderful people as well.
But on the whole I see more happiness then I ever saw in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
ex jw we are not so great in gift giving, we don't have a lot of experience.
lol.
mother day always confuse me, why should i give my wife a gift, she is not my.
Tell her you love her.
My mother died 10 years ago, in the 18 years previous I never honored her on her birthday, Christmas or Mothers Day, due to bOrg indoctrination. Now I know ttatt it hurts me, that I never did.
Tell her you love her.
i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.
i really cared about the people in the field.
i thought their lives were in danger.
steven hassen is a well known name for many, if you do not know him google can help.
this information is certainly not new, but as almost every exjw has deep affection and concern for active jws it is certainly my wish and i hope the wish of other exjws that any active jw considers this information.
this information cannot be deemed as apostate, it is just stating the opinion of someone who has spent much of his adult life in helping people to realize what a cult is.
Steven Hassen is a well known name for many, if you do not know him google can help. This information is certainly not new, but as almost every exJW has deep affection and concern for active JWs it is certainly my wish and I hope the wish of other exJWs that any active JW considers this information. This information cannot be deemed as Apostate, it is just stating the opinion of someone who has spent much of his adult life in helping people to realize what a Cult is
Here is his BITE model to determine if a group can be classified as a CULT.
Behavior
Information
Thought Control
Emotions
Behavior
· Regulation of individual's physical reality, for example, what clothes, colors, hairstyles the person wears
· Major time commitment required for indoctrination sessions and group rituals
· Individualism discouraged; "group think" prevails
· Rigid rules and regulations
· Need for obedience and dependency
Information
· Use of deception
· Access to non-cult sources of information minimized or discouraged
· Compartmentalization of information; Outsider vs. Insider doctrines
· Spying and reporting on other members
· Extensive use of cult generated information and propaganda
· Confession
Thought Control
· Need to internalize the group's doctrine as "Truth"
· Black and White thinking - Good vs. Evil, us vs. them, inside vs. outside
· Use of "loaded" language (for example, "thought-terminating clichés"). Words are the tools we use to think with. These "special" words constrict rather than expand understanding, and can even stop thoughts altogether. They function to reduce complexities of experience into trite, platitudinous "buzz words."
· Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged.
· No critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy seen as legitimate
· No alternative belief systems viewed as legitimate, good, or useful
Emotions
· Make the person feel that if there are ever any problems, it is always their fault, never the leader's or the group's.
· Phobia indoctrination: inculcating irrational fears about ever leaving the group or even questioning the leader's authority. The person under mind control cannot visualize a positive, fulfilled future without being in the group.
More information on Mind Control can be obtained from:
http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php
and
i have been building and had a large body of information on shunning, quotes with sources, documents, eg conti case and so many others.. this computer was being difficult and after many $$$ i have it back and most of these vital files are wiped.. despair as i had intended to collate and make a report for the royal commission here in australia about institutional child abuse but a twisted relief that this crushing most difficult plan is now taken from me.
i feel so badly cheated.. the computer people mentioned so many 'corrupted files'.. pass the white pills please.
its a bastard when you care..
zeb
If you want to invest a little money, there are people who can recover the information even if the HDD has been formatted.
Corrupted files does not necessarily mean the information is lost, don't give up. The computer people you went too were obviously not so good.
i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!
but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.
i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).
TheListener
If my wife had watched it she hasn't said anything. But I expect her stubborness to prove me wrong about my fading would prevent her from sharing anything about her feelings about it with me.
Precisely the problem I have with my wife.
somebody on another thread suggested that those still in could express their opinions on steven lett's performance.
i am still in and i was shocked, dismayed and saddened by it.
i became a witness over 30 yrs ago and the issue of donations was a non-issue for so many years.. now, it is a huge one for the org.
